Please Don’t Call it Native American Shamanism

I see a lot of people offering spirit medicine who call themselves Native American shaman. As a Native American, I respectfully as you to please stop. I assume that you mean well and have the utmost respect for the Native American culture. If that is true, I ask you to use that same respect to honor the culture and call your tradition something else. It’s not Native American shamanism. Here is why.

Not in the Language

The word “shaman” is not in any mainland U.S. Native American language. Ethnolinguists say the word comes to us from North Asia by way of Russia. Words are a representation of the culture. How can an idea exist in a culture if there is no word for it? If you mean “shaman” in a generic way that is meant to convey the idea of a spiritual healer, again I ask you to not use that term. Many natives find this particular word offensive, inaccurate, and/or misleading.

Not Tribe Specific

The term “Native American” applies to a group of people in the same way that the word “Hispanic” applies to a group of people. While there are similarities in religion, language, food, healing practices, and spiritual practices, there are differences among groups. I have never seen anyone advertising to teach Apache Shamanism or Mattaponi Shamanism, yet if there were such a thing, that is how it would be titled. When a blanket term of shamanism is used, it seems like it’s probably a mishmash of who knows what.

If I said I do Latin dancing, you’d have a general idea of what that means. Maybe you’d get a flavor for the type of music and mood, but your idea of what I do and what I actually do could be miles apart. If you ask me to samba, and I don’t know how, I can’t just pick it up based on what I already know. Samba is wildly different from bachata, mambo, tango, or Argentine tango. If merengue music started playing and I started trying to salsa, it would be a hot mess. These are not the same things. Not even close! Specificity matters.

Tribes have traditions. Tribes want to maintain those traditions. Taking bits and pieces from here and there isn’t evolution. It’s dilution. The Native American culture has been stolen from and watered down so much that some people hardly know themselves. Children were stolen from their parents and beaten for speaking their native language. That was so successful that some tribes have all but lost their native tongue. Christianity was forced on people so that many no longer identify with native spiritual beliefs. So, naturally, those who are in positions to keep the traditions alive are fighting to do so. Those who know the difference generally do not blend spiritual practices – or anything else – with other tribes. They definitely do not blend with non-native influences.

“First they came to take our land and water. Then they wanted our mineral resources. Now they want to take our religion as well.” ~Janet McCloud, Tulalep Nation

Not Dominated By Women

Most of the people I see calling themselves shaman are women. Many Native American societies follow nature’s laws. This means that all people are not equal. All life is honored, but differences are also honored. Outliers (homosexuals, transgenders, mentally retarded, mentally ill, handicapped, etc.) are respected teachers. The people protect and care for elders and children. Women are the creators of life. This role is important to the survival of the clan, tribe, and world. Consequently, there are things that are appropriate for each class of people and things that are not. For this reason, in all but the rarest of circumstances, the role of “shaman” falls to the men. If you understand and follow the law of nature, this only makes sense.

I really admire Northern Traditional and fancy dancers. I love the regalia and would love to experience that, but it just doesn’t make sense for a woman to do that. Native culture is not American culture where roles are gender free. It is not that way in nature. For example, male alligators service many females. After mating season is finished, they are solitary creatures. They don’t just decide to go against the flow and pick one mate, hang around, build the nest, and care for the young because they want to be more egalitarian and civilized. They follow their nature. And so it is among traditional Native Americans. Women cannot serve the needs of the tribe and their children. So, they generally do not serve in this capacity unless they are post menopausal.

You Can’t Buy This Education

In Native culture, people are chosen for certain roles because of their aptitude and attitude. There is generally one “shaman”, and perhaps an apprentice, who takes care of the needs of the clan. No traditional shaman is going to offer this to an outsider for money. Period. It’s just not going to happen. Those who know, don’t tell. The work serves the tribe, not outsiders. It’s not for sale.

You are not going to be invited into the inner circle where this information could be available to you. Natives can be very distrustful of others outside their own tribe – even other Natives! They have lots of reasons to be. Treaties were broken. The Mexican government offered a reward for Apache and Comanche scalps that Americans gladly collected (because Mexicans were not allowed to own firearms). Natives were exposed to the pox- a disease that killed thousands. The suspicion against outsiders is high. A Native who is raised in the traditional way is not likely to interact in any meaningful way with an outsider, much less carry on the intimate business of teaching spirit medicine.

Medicine is not for sale. Spirituality is not for sale. It’s a birthright. It’s linked to you through your blood. You can’t buy it. When you see someone selling sacred ceremonies like the sweat lodge, ask yourself how you would feel about a Christian church that charged you that same fee to come in for a service.

The work of a “shaman” is also requires a cultural understanding that you are not going to get in a weekend workshop, weeklong, or even years of study. If you go to Paris for a week, do you understand the French? If you live in Estonia for a year, can you blend in like a native? No, right? The same is true of Native Americans. You can’t have a full understanding of “shamanism” without the cultural piece. It’s like trying to convert to Islam or Judaism. There is no separation of church, state, family, or person in Islam or Judaism. Culture and religion are inseparable. They are a lifestyle. A weekend warrior cannot understand or teach this.

There Aren’t An Abundance of Teachers

Everyone everywhere is a “shaman.” They are offering instruction to whomever shows up. In reality, as I said above, there is usually one per clan. So, who are these other people offering to teach you how to be a shaman? I have no idea, but they aren’t traditional healers. Traditional healers don’t peddle their services.

We Aren’t Going to Give Authentic Information To You

Let’s say for the sake of argument that you have found someone who really is Native American who made the decision to sell information to you in order to feed his family or to make a better life for himself. I get that. Money is important. Survival is important. Taking money from eager outsiders can seem like taking candy from a baby. So, why not give them some information and take their money?

I am sure some people do that, but probably not real “shaman.” What you are more likely to get is a charlatan with a smattering of knowledge scamming you for money. Or worse yet, someone who read a book and is passing the information along to you at a premium price. Or perhaps it is someone further down the line who learned something from someone who learned something from someone and all parties believe it’s authentic.

This can show up in learning partial information or information that is harmful. For example, I know someone who provides shamanic services for money. This person is offering services to women that, if done in a traditional setting, would not be available to women. This person has helped many people heal from physical and emotional issues, but is not well. This person has visible (to someone who knows about energy) energy disruptions that manifest physically that are explained as being a part of being more “highly evolved,” when in actuality, it’s a result of being taught incorrectly.

So, you see being taught incorrectly can have negative consequences for you, but it can also have negative consequences for those you intend to help. Take for example James Arthur Ray, a spiritual leader and best selling author from Arizona who held a sweat where three people were killed. The results of ignorance can be deadly.

So don’t get me wrong. I am not saying that you can’t be taught something that is useful. It’s just not Native American. And it may well be dangerous to you and others.

You’re Not Native American

Culture counts. Part of what makes Native American healing work comes from the culture. If you are born in a patriarchal culture, you are not going to necessarily see or understand the matriarchal system- even if it is explained to you. There are many nuances and traditions, such as the flow of time, family dynamics, and simple differences in how values are expressed, that won’t make sense to you. These things are relevant in understanding and delivering spiritual medicine. Even if you learn the correct ways of doing things, it’s not like following a recipe. Intention, spirit, and understanding of the interconnectedness of life matters.

For example, I once attended a traditional counseling training that had elements that borrowed from Native American traditions. I thought, “Oh, great. I will be able to flow easily with this.” No. It felt like I was being dragged through a squeeze box backwards to end up where I already was. The instruction actually made sense for westerners because it was viewed through a western lens. It made no sense from an indigenous perspective. The outcome was useful for westerners, but doesn’t really reflect the Native experience because it was devoid of cultural understanding. I’m not one to throw out the baby with the bathwater. It’s still useful, just not Native American.

Don’t Call It Native American Shamanism

Most Native Americans find the association of the word shamanism with the native culture offensive. It’s inaccurate. It destroys the cultural integrity of a people. (Think about it. If you were Wiccan or Voudon, would you want Christians defining you?) The Native American culture, history, and traditions have long been distorted by the mainstream culture, and this is just another way that this continues. While you may see the term shaman as a blanket term for holy person or spiritual healer, it has no place in the Native American tradition. God bless you if you are doing good work. Lots of people are. It’s not about the quality or effectiveness of the work, but the name. Please don’t call it Native American shamanism.

What It’s Not

Here’s a quick list of what Native American healers generally do not do so that you can know how to spot a fake. We:

    • don’t use the term “shaman”
    • don’t use crystals
    • don’t charge for services
    • don’t take outsiders on drug induced journeys disguised as spirit quests
    • don’t teach outsiders much less huge groups of them
    • don’t share sacred items or practices with outsiders
    • don’t offer all services to women at all times
    • are separate from the New Age
    • identify first with our tribe (Pamunkey, Hopi, Pima, Cherokee, etc.). We are from a specific tribe with specific traditions.
    • don’t evangelize or recruit people to our beliefs or way of life

I’ve seen people who think that this does not apply to them. The say they were “adopted” by a Native. Or maybe spirituality belongs to everyone and you can’t segregate it to just one culture or one lineage. Or some say that they were called to this by the Great Spirit or some variation of that. It’s about more than just what your heart says. There is no way to remove the patriarchal world view from your western upbringing and faithfully reproduce a matriarchal belief system. There is no way to divorce the values of family, clan, land, property, and life from the practice of Native American spirituality. It’s not a western view where it’s okay to take the bits that you like, leave the parts you don’t like behind, and mix it with other stuff to make it fit into your life. In Native spirituality, you fit into nature. Nature doesn’t conform to you.

 

A Bit of Advice

If you are looking for spirituality, please seek it in a church or through some other spiritual outlet that fits within your ancestral traditions. There is only one Creator, and we’re all One people, but your ancestral heritage matters. Don’t reject that. Visit, appreciate and honor other traditions, but work within your own. That is where your power and your work lies.

If you have Native American ancestry and want to get in touch with your roots, go to a pow wow. Meet other Natives. Learn about the culture. Be a student. Don’t try to help others through spiritual practices that require cultural immersion to understand. I believe that as you become more in touch with your culture and your ancestors, you will understand and come to respect and embrace the reasons why this is not open to you and also begin to embrace your own people’s wisdom and ways.

If you are already an established healer, learn more about what you are doing, where it comes from, and why it works. There are many wonderful things out there that help people. If you don’t know why it works, you can blend things in such a way that the results are actually harmful to you or someone else. (For example, two herbs may have great healing properties, but when used together they can cancel each other out, create a toxic reaction, or maybe work even better).

Offer truth in advertising. Your credibility is stronger when you call a spade a spade. We call that ethics. You create distrust with false advertisement and perpetrate misunderstanding.

If you are someone who admires Native culture, be culturally sensitive. So much has been taken away from Natives through conquest and prejudice. Please don’t contribute to the misconceptions by referring to our spirit medicine as shamanism. When you take something that you don’t understand and present it as the real thing, you steal its soul. Eventually, in the minds of the public, that fake thing becomes the real thing and the real thing is lost. Also, when you make the sacred commonplace, it is no longer sacred. Don’t steal our culture. To steal culture is to steal the essence of a people whom you seem to want to honor. It’s not cool when Rachel Dolezal does it. It’s not cool when you do it.

You can also help by adopting the practice of honoring all life. Natives aren’t “special” because we’re Native. We’re all children of the Creator. We are brothers and sisters. You can honor us by honoring yourself and your traditions. There is wisdom in all cultures. We all have our place in the world, and you were born into your culture for a reason. Love that and you may find that the best expression for your energy lies there – not in seeking wisdom elsewhere.

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  1. hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm I know a lot of people feel this way, But I also know it is not true for all tribes! I was one, who had a Shaman Teacher of the Ojibwe tribe. I am part native, but do not know which tribe….I have been doing this work, long before I knew what it even was…I have found this before. It’s a kind of backhanded racism….really. At least that was what I thought of it before….What culture I was born in, has nothing to do with me, but with fate! My Grandfather was the one who had native blood, and he was not allowed to talk about it! Shameful! Well it is what it is! I have lived it for 60+ years, and then someone had the nerve to call me new age! The worst! The thing was, they were only part native and took up with their European roots, but still thought they could judge! Give me a break! So judgement is all over, and it only shows the depth or lack of it, in the person doing the judging….just thought for you. Not that it’ll help you….Blessings

  2. So what if u born native American and ur tribes r by blood Apache comanche tajos and aztech on my moms side and my farther is Norse. My moms side is all Texas reagon. And all our tribal blood is respected.. my family refuses to choose one tribal blood over the other. Now u take my blood and and I was then sold for 50,000 dollars to a white Russian Jews family from NY. In 1973. As a child inqas seen talking to the earth and gave me advice answers and I never had fear of them. The dead or the elements..people on the other hand I had a great distrust for. I knew what I did and do is a lifestyle not something that can be bought or sold. I respect the earth and the spirit world I live for them as they live for me. Symbiotic relationship..what to a person who is raised in a white world call what I do. By blood I am half native American pure and simple yes my blood was done when my uncle married Carol wewa of the pyutes..so where do people like me stand one foot here and one foot there with no home to truly claim..so where do we fit if only our ancestors claim us. The our old core beliefs in the spirit world lay claim to us. Dont pur ancestors have a more profound voice then the living. Since most tribal customs scream respects our ancestors respect our ways. All elements flow and change so must everything stagnations destroys and corrupts. Just saying.

  3. Hi, my name is Annie Pace’ & I am a full blooded Italian from Sicily, Italy. I choose to worship a Great Spirit even tho I was raised a Catholic! I do not respect, honor or recognize the Catholic Church. Instead, I believe in a higher power that I call THE GREAT SPIRIT. I am a spiritual person not a religious one. I, being a free human being, can & do make my own decisions on what I believe! You nor anyone else can tell me I cannot believe in a GREAT SPIRIT.I don’t call the GREAT SPIRIT A SHAMAN! I agree with you there, that shaman is not an appropriate name for the GREAT SPIRIT. BUT, I can talk to the GREAT SPIRIT & WORSHIP A GREAT SPIRIT IF I WANT TO! AND, I DO WANT TO! YOU are not the GTEAT SPIRIT, THEREFORE YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TELL OTHERS WHO OR WHAT TO CALL THEIR HIGHER POWER!!??
    THAT:TS ALL I WANTED TO SAY ANNIE

    • Hi, thanks for your comment! I am not talking about the name for the Creator. I am speaking to “shamanism” which is the practice of going to the spirit world for the purposes of healing. Apples and oranges. 😉

  4. Hello!

    I’m brazilian and I live in Brazil, I’m a huge admirer of native american culture and spirituality since my teens and, though what you wrote may sound harsh and restrictive to many, I agree with every word you wrote. Us westerners will never ever see the world as you natives do, it doesn’t matter what, maybe not even you can see the universe with the exact same eyes of your ancestors even though all the traditions have been passed ahead through generations. I have brazilian natives blood, but it doesn’t and will never make me a native just because I carry the heritage. That’s a fact.
    Even though I agree with 100% of all stated in this article and I understand and see perfectly every reason explained, it’s still a bit sad. I’ve always felt this calling deep inside my soul to the Lakota traditions and medicine (yes, very specifically) and the need to get in touch with their wisdom and look for healing in their tradition somehow. Though I never did and would never look for the so called “shamans” neither would pay for anything like that. Just recently reading articles like the one above I got to acknowledge why it always felt so wrong seeing all those courses and rituals promoted by those “shamans”, it never made sense to my heart, felt like it was literally all fake, abusive and I never knew why, now I do.
    I wonder if I’ve lived among the Lakota people in some past life… The thing is that I feel this calling from within and, while I dont know what to do about it, I can just honor and respect the traditions and spread the truth if I get the opportunity, that theres no such thing as shamanism as we’ve been ‘mistaught’.
    Hope to be able to get more in touch with the Lakota people and culture someday, if that’s really meant to be.

    • Thanks for your comment. I didn’t mean to imply that I thought people should be separate.We are all One people. There is only one Creator. I am not Lakota, though I have many Lakota friends and visit their Rez. I don’t think we can’t enjoy each others traditions. Just that we need to honor our own, call things by their right names, and not teach or profit from what is not ours.

      I am taking a group to Lakota country next summer. If it is meant to be, I hope you will join us. I think that hearing it from them, in their land, surrounded by their ancestors could make a deeper impact.

  5. I hope this comment is not seen as disrespectful, but I have to write it. I did spiritual practices for over twenty-five years that were outside the spiritual tradition in which I was raised because the tradition I was raised in not only did not call to my heart and left me feeling empty, but I have always been aware of spirit guides around me and this did not fit into the spiritual tradition into which I was born – at least as I was taught it and as it is generally practiced. As a matter of fact, my spirit guides helped me to find a way to save my life when I was declared terminally ill and doctors had nothing to offer me. And through the practices my guides guided me through I learned many, many things including that Creator, the Sacred, or whatever you feel comfortable calling the Divine, is Infinite. Infinite, among other things, means beyond our mind’s understanding and all our categories. It is my understanding now that our spirituality follows our natures and this is very personal and individual.

    • Thanks for commenting. It’s never disrespectful to share your truth. It’s honorable to abandon that which does not serve you.

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  8. I agree with you that shamanism is not a Native American term at all, but I will use it in my comment with “quotes” just to make things easier 🙂

    Consulting and working with the spirits for the purpose of healing, divination, etc. do not belong to Native Americans. “Shamanism” has been around for tens of thousands of years, and is found on every single continent, within every single race of man. It doesn’t belong to any one individual, race, or culture.

    “Shamanism” is about working with the spirit world, Gaia (Mother Earth) and sometimes the outer Cosmos, too. I don’t believe the spirits are overly concerned about human culture or ancestral lineage–that is putting human/egoic limitations on Spirit. They are concerned about the intent of the spiritual seeker/healer, how much love and wisdom (yes and accurate knowledge) they have and how they intend to use their gifts. I understand that in a spiritual way it may be easier to access deities and spirits that mostly work within certain bloodlines, but its limiting to say that an individual absolutely cannot work with any spirit, so if they are non-Native they should just give up spirit work and go back to the church?

    Also, every race of people has Dieties or spirits that their ancestors worked with in ancient times. So perhaps these modern White, Black, or Asian American “shamans” are working with a different group of spirits anyway and who’s to say that those spirits aren’t knowledgeable and effective healers?

    I agree that some Westerner’s are way out of line with how they label themselves and what they say they do. But I must ask our Native American brothers and sisters for a little empathy, here. Some of us (including myself) have past-lives as “shamans” and can remember those lives. Some of us have spirit/energy/psychic work in our human bloodlines too, but we are disconnected from our people and don’t really have a feasible way of learning the traditions from our own ancestors from other continents. Native American traditions are just more accessible because we live in America–its not about stealing. I understand your concern about safety and really understanding the traditions, but we really have no other choice but to create a new “modern mashup” of new + old “shamanic” traditions because it isn’t appropriate for us to use distinct shamanic practices from specific Native American tribes (and they don’t really share this information anyway for all the very understandable reasons you listed), but it is hard to access this information from our own ancestors because they are from another country or have been snuffed out by Christianity/governments and a lot of the information has been lost–this is really true for European spiritual traditions. All of us have modern versions of our ancient spiritual traditions because of information loss…

    For myself, I do have some access to African “shamanic” practices here in the States. But African religions do not speak to me–some parts of it really does, others parts really, really don’t. That is my business. I don’t have to be forced to practice Ifa, Voodoo or worship one of the Orishas because someone external to myself thinks those are the only traditions I have any “right” to practice. I take my “orders” from spirit, not humans 🙂

    In closing, I really respect the information you have brought to us in your article–it was very informative and rich with important information, thank you. But you nor anyone else has the right to tell people that they cannot work with the spirit world or use their spiritual knowledge and skills to help others. If the spirits choose non-Native American folks to share healing modalities with, than who are you or anyone else to tell them they can’t use them?

    And as far as charging money, non-Native folks don’t have the benefit of communal living that some Native peoples have access to. Personally, I agree with the Native American way of living–why do we need an intricate money system, everybody should just work to benefit the whole community! But that’s not the way things are unless you live in a tribal community or some kind of commune. So “city” practitioners charge money because they have bills to pay. There is nothing dishonest or fake about it at all. Also, women are great healers, but I agree that their healing techniques may be different than a man’s due to their natural inclinations as women 🙂

    Thank you!

    • “Shamanism” is a term used by the Evenk people to describe THEIR way of walking the spirit world. Using that term to describe how others do it is misleading and incorrect. It’s like calling all soda Coke. Pepsi, Mt Dew, Dr. Pepper, Inca Cola, and Sprite are not Coke. This is my point. Yes, everyone can have soda. It doesn’t belong to anyone in particular, but when you talk about it in a generic way and remove the cultural nuances from which is spawns, you dilute it. THAT’S why it’s not wise to pick and choose and take what you like. You ruin the thing that you say you love, not only for yourself, but for others. Native American people have been raped enough (and other indigenous people too). I in no way said nor implied that people can’t or shouldn’t heal or practice their spirituality. I said please respect other people’s spiritual traditions by calling things by their correct names and respecting the boundaries about what belongs to you and what does not. If something helps you, use it. Don’t teach it, sell it, or give it away if it’s not yours to do so.

      • and coke, pepsi, mt. dew etc are all soda. what your talking about is a classification topic. but i see the real reason you wrote this just as you know it. bitterness. towards the ones that ‘raped’ your people. 300 years and you still havent gotten over it. stupid.

        Its not for you to decide boundaries besides your own personal ones. what you talking about has its own boundaries and it decides who it goes to. you have forgotten or never even knew what this is. and of curse, there werent and arent many female shamans so i can understand that.

        Cultural nuances is the same as selling it. if you demand they be taken too then your selling it. we dont need the culture, especially i its not in our dna. the point is the item in question itself, and this item fits itself to the person it comes to. it has its own life and its own thoughts. its meant for that person.

        How about you step on back off that high horse lady

        now im going to say something you really wont like. what happened to the native Americans and is happening now all over the world is happening because thats how it is. its been cleared. the green light gave. and we know exactly what to do then. you keep blaming us for what happened and its your own damn fault. you did not fight hard enough. you we deemed less than worthy. that’s the facts lady. all the other races have had this kind of thing happen throughout history. I’ve never seen anyone cry and whine and spit hate as long as your people did and do.

        you had it coming. pride was your downfall. eat it, it’s real. I’ve read the history of your people that is not spread all over the media. I personally know some of your people. there isn’t anything you have on me, I got both sides covered and im standing on the middle ground telling you YOU suck. heal thyself, shaman. move on. rise up. get over it.

        want to call me names? im there. bastard. asshole. prick. bully. im all those things. And i know you like the others do not. we are wising up, lady. more are out there like me. and spreading the word. you had your time of mourning. and your hate is going to take you out if you let it. I, for one, dont give a shit what you do. thats how repulsive you are to me.

  9. Hello,
    Full disclosure, I am not native, though I have a deep admiration and interest in indigenous culture. I’m currently writing a paper for college on Westerners’ perceived notions on native healing in regards to mental health, and would love to use this articulate post as resource and reference. This is of course only with your permission. If that is okay, may I ask the author’s name so that I can properly site them? You can always email me privately with that information. I would also love to ask some follow-up questions. Thank you for your time.
    Respectfully,
    Michael

  10. Lady, Shamans are the wise ones, the ones who deal in spirits, source, etc etc. So what you are saying is your guys have no wise ones, no one who deals in spirits, source, etc? Is that the line of crap your throwing around?

    Sounds to me like another native american hate victim to me. YES, the native americans are filled with hate for the white man. dont even try to deny it, and i wont hear your excuses either. Hate is hate.

    I’ll call myself whatever i damn well please. And you need to educate yourself some more. Ass

  11. Yeah. that you do not teach outsiders reminds me of something. Ive read about them, and what they are. There are many different kinds of them and each kind stick to their own. Generally they believe themselves to be better than everyone else tho they usually dont advertise that.

    There is more but i think you have the picture. Want to hear something interesting? something in me says they also crave something that is given to anyone but them. And they dont understand why, they feel they deserve it.

    sound familiar?

    ok I’ll leave you be. Its better i dont come back. This place is not healthy. It is fallow.

    • Thanks for chiming in. Dialog is great!

      No, it’s not about being better. It’s about calling things by their rightful names. The only true shaman are the Evenk people. Everyone else does something else. Those differences ought to be honored. It’s like Christopher Columbus calling the natives of the New World “Indians.” It’s a mistake. To continue the error when you know it’s an error is disrespectful. When you know better, you do better. So let’s do better.

      It’s not about hate. We are all children of one Creator. It’s about honoring the ancestors, culture, and the beauty inside of us and being who we were born to be- not stepping outside of that. Sorry that you didn’t see that. I did say it. 🙂 Have a great day.

  12. I’m embarrassed by the fact of how you’re speaking in your statements. That the native american Indians don’t want to share information with the whites. I mean, really? What times are we living in today? And it’s what your saying in the entirety that’s really just as offensive as you thinking when whites calling someone a shaman. Two wrongs don’t make a right. But what I hear from you is alot of hatred for whites. And yes, I’m white. But wait, I had a DNA test done and I’m also cherokee indian. Not much, but it’s in my blood. And I’m truly embarrassed by the fact that you say Indians will not share precious medicines with “the whites” because it’s a tribal thing and it’s sacred. Obviously you’re not a spiritual guide. Because any spiritual guide knows that we, as in every person, living thing on earth, including mother earth is connected as ONE with our creator. So what? Our people do not want to help mankind? Is that what you’re saying? Do you really think if one race on earth figured out how to awaken the soul, they’d just keep it ALL TO THEMSELVES and just LET EVERYONE ELSE ROT? Oh…yeah. you guys remember back in the day…rught… those whites…I mean..when does this stop really. Now, look around my man. We are ALL SLAVES NOW. BY THE GOVERMNENT Yes. We might be the freest country. But we are all slaves today. Because none of us is living the way we really deserve to be. So please, try to be a better person. And if your ancestors are really not helping other races to enlightenment, you’re just doing exactly what the government wants. Congratulations.

    • Hey, thanks for chiming in!

      If you are ethnically Cherokee, then you know that the name for the person who does spirit medicine is not “shaman”, right?

      If you are ethnically Cherokee, then you also know that that not every Cherokee can participate in every ritual or ceremony. Sometimes it’s a gender issue. Sometimes it is about not being ready or invited. Maybe it’s because they are in mourning. There are lots of reasons why someone would not be included. Why would there not be the same considerations for non-Natives? Do you think non-Natives have an open door invitation when Natives can’t even do that? It’s not about hate. It’s about cultural norms.

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